[identity profile] aviv-b.livejournal.com 2014-07-01 04:42 am (UTC)(link)
Most people who are interested in this issue have done more than listen to Rush spew his drug-addled nonsense.

Ovarian cysts are not rare. Endometriosis is not rare. I know exactly how not rare they are because I can actually read and comprehend something as sophisticated as, well, Wikipedia, or even WebMD. You, on the other hand, apparently think that if you say something with force that will make it true. Sorry, facts don't work that way. You can't just pull bullshit out of your ass and not think it won't smell. And the smell factor is off the charts tonight in your posts.

[identity profile] enders-shadow.livejournal.com 2014-07-01 04:57 am (UTC)(link)
Again: I am paying for it, through paying for insurance.

Also: do you really think that humans who are poor, and perhaps unprepared (mentally, economically, physically perhaps) to raise a child, are going to deny the single most basic and powerful human urge??

You have an absurd view of humans if you think that people are going to stop having sex. If you want people to have unplanned parenthood continue with your view. If you want people to have children on purpose, in a planned and [hopefully] prepared way--make sure people can access birth control, regardless of their economic standing.

Also: you may want to look into the book Freakonomics and its section on abortion. It may possible be in the sequel, SuperFreakonomics. Both are worth reading in their entirety.

[identity profile] enders-shadow.livejournal.com 2014-07-01 05:00 am (UTC)(link)
Medicare for all! Medicare for all! Medicare for all!
[i wish i had something more to say, but that's it, really.]

[identity profile] madam-shapo.livejournal.com 2014-07-01 05:29 am (UTC)(link)
Then you agree that they should.

No, I don't. Who am I to decide how a private company should conduct its business?

[identity profile] new-wave-witch.livejournal.com 2014-07-01 05:30 am (UTC)(link)
I guess, then, that I don't understand what you meant with the point that "most insurances cover it." Could you clarify please?

[identity profile] madam-shapo.livejournal.com 2014-07-01 05:31 am (UTC)(link)
Don't they know they are taking chances? Look, the point is people can do whatever they want. But, they should know the consequences and should not count on other to take care of their business. That's all.

[identity profile] madam-shapo.livejournal.com 2014-07-01 05:33 am (UTC)(link)
What part of do whatever you want, but don't ask me to pay for it you don't understand?

[identity profile] madam-shapo.livejournal.com 2014-07-01 05:37 am (UTC)(link)
Insurance companies are private enterprises - if they want to cover something - great, if not - that is their business - do not force them.

[identity profile] madam-shapo.livejournal.com 2014-07-01 05:39 am (UTC)(link)
Me as a taxpayer.

[identity profile] new-wave-witch.livejournal.com 2014-07-01 05:39 am (UTC)(link)
Then what's the point of having medical insurance at all?

[identity profile] madam-shapo.livejournal.com 2014-07-01 05:43 am (UTC)(link)
The point is for the consumer to go and get an insurance that she needs. She/he wants to cover contraception only - get Ins A, she/he wants a cover for accidents - get Ins B, and so on...

[identity profile] new-wave-witch.livejournal.com 2014-07-01 05:45 am (UTC)(link)
Why is contraception excluded from general insurance? That's as legitimate a need as any other medical treatment that should be covered through insurance.

[identity profile] madam-shapo.livejournal.com 2014-07-01 05:47 am (UTC)(link)
No, I was incorrect. My taxes went towards ACA subsidy recipients.
Same principle goes for Hobby Lobby - if they don't want to pay for whatever they don't want to pay, fine. Don't force them.

[identity profile] new-wave-witch.livejournal.com 2014-07-01 05:49 am (UTC)(link)
Dude.

[identity profile] madam-shapo.livejournal.com 2014-07-01 05:49 am (UTC)(link)
The difference is that their insurance company is fine for paying it.
I have to say, you're good though, at least today.

[identity profile] madam-shapo.livejournal.com 2014-07-01 05:52 am (UTC)(link)
One more time - they should be able to cover and not to cover whatever they want. You don't get to tell them what to do! You do not tell Italian restaurant to make you a burrito, and sue them if they refuse.

[identity profile] madam-shapo.livejournal.com 2014-07-01 05:54 am (UTC)(link)
I do not reply to rude people. Don't bother.

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