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Indeed! And the president is totally disconnected from society while doing so, which is why we should praise the Good President Obama for being on vacation so little, and the Bad President Bush for being on vacation so much!

From my perspective I can think of other, better comparisons between the two…and even so, by just about every measure I can use legitimately, GWB doesn't come out well, for all that he may well have been (and may still be) good company.

The vacation argument was always really stupid, because it counted things like weekends at Camp David with heads of state and trips to Crawford with Tony Blair.

Besides that, if Bush was as bad as people think, they should be happy he's not around to govern.

The US is a polarised nation: more so now than ever.

Obama should be the perfect compromise between the two Americas: he's pretty right-wing without overly offending the Liberals. And he's civilised and articulate. Internationally, things have gone better for him than did for GWB, with successes in capturing Bin Laden, and the timetable to withdraw from Iraq and Afghanistan. Economically, his policies have aided a better-than-average-G20 growth in a time of world recession. I guess there must be some other reasons why some folk seem to react to him in a semi-hysterical fashion, but whatever reasons they may be, the internets are full of such folk.* (I mean to say, Benghazi? Really? Come on. Most folk either know better, or are cynical enough to know worse, if you see what I mean.)

My guess is that it won't take a chap from the Right to heal the divisions in America. Nor what must be laughably called the Left, either. Probably someone like Obama, but just not black.

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If you think Obama is American-right wing in any form, you're misreading the American electorate. Obama is more hawkish than he initially positioned himself, that's about it.

My guess is that it won't take a chap from the Right to heal the divisions in America. Nor what must be laughably called the Left, either. Probably someone like Obama, but just not black.

The ideological divisions in the United States are ones that have a plurality of conservatives. If you want to repair the divisions, taking someone from the smallest group, like Obama (white or black), is only going to magnify the problem. As we've seen.

Which system of healthcare does Obamacare most closely resemble?
Could it be.....ROMNEYcare?

Who did Obama nominate for Secretary of Defense?
Could it be.....John McCain's pick?

I'm sure you'll deny it, but the war on drugs is right-wing, and he sure hasn't put a stop to that.
And he wasn't a supporter of gay-marriage when he was first elected; that's definitely not left-wing.

I'm glad you will agree he is more Hawkish than he appeared; that too is right-wing.

So I'm sure you have convinced yourself Obama is a super-liberal, but he is no Bernie Sanders (and ol' Bernie is only super-left by American standards)

Which system of healthcare does Obamacare most closely resemble?
Could it be.....ROMNEYcare?

It might, but (as someone who lives under the thumb of RomneyCare) there are significant differences, many of which are because the federal government is not a state government.

Who did Obama nominate for Secretary of Defense?
Could it be.....John McCain's pick?

And this means what?

I'm sure you'll deny it, but the war on drugs is right-wing, and he sure hasn't put a stop to that.

I disagree that it's right wing, yes.

And he wasn't a supporter of gay-marriage when he was first elected; that's definitely not left-wing.

No, he was just a supporter of it before he got elected.

So I'm sure you have convinced yourself Obama is a super-liberal, but he is no Bernie Sanders (and ol' Bernie is only super-left by American standards)

Not a super-liberal, but easily the most liberal since LBJ, perhaps since FDR. And no, he's not Bernie Sanders, thank goodness.

So do you call the war on drugs a left-wing position?

Yes.

.....WHAT???

thats why texas, alabama, mississippi and NC are leading the charge to end it?

I think if you're looking to end the drug war, you're more likely to be on the libertarian right than the progressive left.

you are talking ideology; for a moment look at the reality

where are the stiffest penalties for marijuana, by state, and which are the most lax?

Colorado and Washington, right?
CA almsot did legalize it, but not yet.

I know in NY the gov made an effort to reduce penalties on small amounts of public possession.
You know who OPPOSED the measure? The republicans. The right-wing.

Where has the right-wing DONE ANYTHING to reduce the drug war?
The left has made some minor inroads.

Now now. Are you saying just marijuana, or the drug war. They're two different concepts. The left tends to be lax on marijuana, but inconsistent on other drugs - including being nanny-style statists on legal substances like sugar and caffeine.

If you want an end to the drug war, you want a libertarian conservative.

And no, he was NOT a supporter of it before he got elected

Completely incorrect (http://www.windycitymediagroup.com/images/publications/wct/2009-01-14/current.pdf).

You are not accounting for skin color. If you account for skin color, obama is on vacation way more and worthy of much more blame for it.

I don't recall Dubya asking our opinion if we should've invaded Iraq. Disconnected from society takes many forms, my friend...and IMHO everyone who makes more than $100k a year is disconnected from how most people live, regardless. That would include Dubya.

I don't recall Dubya asking our opinion if we should've invaded Iraq.

I suppose he didn't, much like Obama didn't ask our opinion about the health care reform. Part of being a representative republic.

and IMHO everyone who makes more than $100k a year is disconnected from how most people live, regardless. That would include Dubya.

...and Obama.

Yep. But I don't put Obama on a pedestal and worship the ground he walks on like some people do anyone who has (R) behind their name...

And I voted against Bush twice, so who are we talking about exactly?