Maybe. Just distateful for me. There's a wide gulf between being wrong and possibly stupid and being a nazi. Maybe a picture of bunch of Phelp's gang would be better.
But that would be fitting for a genuine, sincere suggestion. The Nazis make it comical. But I understand that the Nazis sort of have this double-sided aspect to them. On one hand, they are the closest we know to real-world evil, but they also have long been like a comic-book meme. To make it work, I suppose, one just has to avoid any overt references to the Halocaust and the killing of the war in general.
Surely you must be familiar with this sort of rhetorical play. Here is an old news item on how Jewish survivors even played with these Nazi themes, and rather soon after the war.
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JERUSALEM, Sept. 5 — It was one of Israel’s dirty little secrets. In the early 1960s, as Israelis were being exposed for the first time to the shocking testimonies of Holocaust survivors at the trial of Adolf Eichmann, a series of pornographic pocket books called Stalags, based on Nazi themes, became best sellers throughout the land.
Read under the table by a generation of pubescent Israelis, often the children of survivors, the Stalags were named for the World War II prisoner-of-war camps in which they were set. The books told perverse tales of captured American or British pilots being abused by sadistic female SS officers outfitted with whips and boots. The plot usually ended with the male protagonists taking revenge, by raping and killing their tormentors.
After decades in dusty back rooms and closets, the Stalags, a peculiar Hebrew concoction of Nazism, sex and violence, are re-emerging in the public eye. And with them comes a rekindled debate on the cultural representation here of Nazism and the Holocaust, and whether they have been unduly mixed in with a kind of sexual perversion and voyeurism that has permeated even the school curriculum.
-- Isabel Kershner for The New York Times (http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/06/world/middleeast/06stalags.html)
If it means anything to you, I'll try to remember that Nazis-based memes aren't funny on LJ. Though, it is not just survivors that have played off this theme. There is so much of it. I think of the "Hogan's Heroes" TV show. And there were all those "Downfall" parodies on YouTube with HItler harranguing his men in the bunker. So much of it.
There are times when Nazis can be used in a humorous manner (Hogans Heroes, The Producers). But that's making fun of the Nazis, not anyone else.
But when you have people thinking that its ok to deny civil rights to people based on their sexual orientation, and in some cases calling for the recriminalization of gays, then the comparison isn't absurd.
But others, such as 'malasadas', is making that argument, that the people who want to deny gays their civil rights may be bigoted and ignorant, but they aren't NAZIS - that calling them Nazis is extreme.
Nah, the line here is too thin and unclear, it's probably best just to stay away from Nazis altogether, unless we are talking about World War II, at least on LJ. LJ has sort of become that kind of place. The only really safe people to joke about are Christians, especially Catholics, along with rich people and Republicans.
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But that would be fitting for a genuine, sincere suggestion. The Nazis make it comical. But I understand that the Nazis sort of have this double-sided aspect to them. On one hand, they are the closest we know to real-world evil, but they also have long been like a comic-book meme. To make it work, I suppose, one just has to avoid any overt references to the Halocaust and the killing of the war in general.
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JERUSALEM, Sept. 5 — It was one of Israel’s dirty little secrets. In the early 1960s, as Israelis were being exposed for the first time to the shocking testimonies of Holocaust survivors at the trial of Adolf Eichmann, a series of pornographic pocket books called Stalags, based on Nazi themes, became best sellers throughout the land.
Read under the table by a generation of pubescent Israelis, often the children of survivors, the Stalags were named for the World War II prisoner-of-war camps in which they were set. The books told perverse tales of captured American or British pilots being abused by sadistic female SS officers outfitted with whips and boots. The plot usually ended with the male protagonists taking revenge, by raping and killing their tormentors.
After decades in dusty back rooms and closets, the Stalags, a peculiar Hebrew concoction of Nazism, sex and violence, are re-emerging in the public eye. And with them comes a rekindled debate on the cultural representation here of Nazism and the Holocaust, and whether they have been unduly mixed in with a kind of sexual perversion and voyeurism that has permeated even the school curriculum.
-- Isabel Kershner for The New York Times (http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/06/world/middleeast/06stalags.html)
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I don't think the comparison was done for hilarity or humor. I think
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But when you have people thinking that its ok to deny civil rights to people based on their sexual orientation, and in some cases calling for the recriminalization of gays, then the comparison isn't absurd.
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Nah, the line here is too thin and unclear, it's probably best just to stay away from Nazis altogether, unless we are talking about World War II, at least on LJ. LJ has sort of become that kind of place. The only really safe people to joke about are Christians, especially Catholics, along with rich people and Republicans.
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Yah -- I've never integrated that "comic-book meme" side.
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