ext_39051 ([identity profile] telemann.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] politicartoons2013-02-28 10:15 am

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Several news reports described a collective gasp in the court when Justice Scalia made his statement. Rachel Maddow's coverage (she was in the court for the oral arguments) and shows a clip from President Johnson's speech proposing the Voting Rights Act. In that speech, Johnson cited specific examples of voter repression, some of which should sound familiar since they're STILL occurring.

[identity profile] yes-justice.livejournal.com 2013-02-28 08:34 pm (UTC)(link)
The problem with this is casually dismissing real life harm in favor of idealism.

[identity profile] american-geist.livejournal.com 2013-02-28 09:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Why, that's just minority entitlement!

[identity profile] badlydrawnjeff.livejournal.com 2013-02-28 09:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Or, in this case, deciding on whether we want to cause harm to mitigate harm.

[identity profile] dexeron.livejournal.com 2013-02-28 09:51 pm (UTC)(link)
What "harm" has been caused by forcing states to live up to their Constitutional responsibilities?

[identity profile] badlydrawnjeff.livejournal.com 2013-02-28 09:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Racial gerrymandering, the inability of states to improve their voter processes because of arbitrary action by the federal government, poor representation in government...

Let's not pretend the VRA is all that much about the Constitution. It uses the Constitution as a justification for many unconstitutional activities.

[identity profile] dexeron.livejournal.com 2013-02-28 09:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Kind of like Mark Warden, and his comments on police responses to domestic abuse calls.

Some people could make the argument that a lot of people like being in abusive relationships. It’s a love-hate relationship. It’s very, very common for people to stick around with somebody they love who also abuses him or her. … Is the solution to those kind of dysfunctional relationships going to be more government, another law? I’d say no. People are always free to leave.

After others pointed out his complete lack of understanding of the issue, he walked it back:

It was never my intention to minimize the trauma of domestic abuse or in any way demean the victims…how the state gets involved in people’s personal lives is a topic that requires thoughtful debate and should not be reduced to sound bites.

In other words, "yes, there's a problem that might need addressing... but isn't it more important to NOT HAVE MORE LAWS?" It's that same fucking emotionally disconnected "to hell with how this affects real people in real life" idealistic sociopathy that's cropping up from conservatives all over the place - like Rand Paul and his "I know people are BLOWING up, but we should think twice about passing legislation that could help with that... cause I don't like LEGISLATION on principle" attitude.