http://deborahkla.livejournal.com/ ([identity profile] deborahkla.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] politicartoons 2012-12-27 12:29 pm (UTC)

Reps and Dems aren't exactly the same, but they're closer to each other than either of them is to acceptable.
Absolute bullshit. You must be blind as a bat and deaf as a post. Dems support a woman's right to choose, gay marriage and national healthcare; the Reps do not. Dems favor lowering taxes on the middle and lower classes and making defense cuts while raising taxes on the wealthy; the Reps roundly refuse to raise taxes on the wealthy under the illusion that they create jobs, when 30 years of supply-side economics has proven the opposite. The Reps claim they will not raise taxes on anyone, but every one of their tax plans calls for raising taxes on the middle and lower classes, refusing cuts to defense, and making massive cuts to federal programs that serve those in need just to support the cuts on the wealthy. If you are unable to recognize these clear differences in policy, you're a prize idiot. Do your fucking homework bfore you make such a stupid claim.

"libertarian" is not equivalent to "conservative". Conservative libertarians are a subset of libertarians.
When libertarians are running around screaming that their right to own multiple automatic assault weapons supercedes the safety of children and that the federal government should be eliminated entirely and everything privatized, they are right-wing kooks. If they supported that racist pig Ron Paul because he supports legalizing pot, they are left-wing kooks. The fact of the matter is that most libertarians are right-leaning, and very selective in their libertarianism. For example, most of them are against abortion, which is a basic right that should be supported in libertarian philosophy. The fact of the matter is that it isn't. If you ally youself with libertarians, you've allied yourself with a party that is made up predomiantly of right-wing kooks.

Fact is, every one of the dozen or so fringe candidates on Florida's ballot had more votes than the difference between Bush and Gore.
You should know better. That several of the votes went to to fringe candidates had more to do with the confusion over the butterfly ballot than any actual support for those candidates. I can guarantee you that none of the retired Jews in Florida would have intentionally voted for Buchanan. So to claim that support for the fringe candidates split the Florida vote is ridiculous.

And if they hadn't, Gore still would have lost because most of Florida's fronge candidates drew votes from the right.
Actually, you're dead wrong. several independent recounts after the Supreme Court decision demonstrated that Gore would have won the election. And then there were thousands of votes found in the trash that weren't counted, and several people of color were refused the right to vote. The role of fringe candidates was relatively minor; Nader's role in the election as a whole was much more significant. He recognized this himself, and that's why he hasn't run since.

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