politicartoons | Derp!!!

War is a function of government. Contraception is not.

My god says paying for war is bad.

Then I hope that your employer isn't mandated to pay for you to make war.

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And that's taxes. This contraceptive thing isn't about taxes, and that would be a whole different discussion if it were.

So the "get out of following law" card works for employers being told pay for sin for by government.

But it doesn't work when citizens are told to pay for sin by government.

LOL.

The issue is the mandate by the government to violate the religious freedoms of those they're governing. I would extend that to a portion of taxes as well.

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This applies to any organization offering insurance, not just ones receiving federal dollars, not that one's Constitutional rights should be waived in response for receiving tax dollars.

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That's great and all, but irrelevant.

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This has nothing to do with whether one receives federal dollars.

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Not ANY organization. Actual churches and other directly religious, not simply religious-administered, organizations are exempt.

Which doesn't go far enough, and kind of puts those who are crying about so-called "special treatment" in a bind anyway.

How so? Churches and other directly religious organizations are only hiring adherents of their own religion, so if they want to refuse access to certain health services based on that religion, they know they're only affecting their followers, who have already signed the contract, so to speak - not just with an employer but with the deity. Religious-administered organizations, on the other hand, like Catholic hospitals, hire non-adherents of their religion extensively, so their health insurance needs to reflect that.

Religious-administered organizations, on the other hand, like Catholic hospitals, hire non-adherents of their religion extensively, so their health insurance needs to reflect that.

Why?

Because separation of church and state, that's why. Because it would violate the Establishment Clause if religious employers could control what healthcare services their employees could access REGARDLESS of the employees' religious status. And since the insurance is state-mandated, the state damn well has an interest that can't be overruled by church doctrine. In this specific case even moreso, since the Catholic prohibition on birth control applies ONLY to Catholics, even in the wording of their own doctrine.

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I would extend that to a portion of taxes as well.

So, a quakers taxes do not go to the military?

Unfortunately, I believe they do even though they should not.

But war is part of our government role? Are they citizens first or religious first??

wow my god does too! I'm a quaker.

Did you know you don't have to pay your taxes?

They are forcing you to support sin. Jeff will defend your tax resistance.

Again (http://politicartoons.livejournal.com/2888221.html?thread=68597789#t68597789), why should war be a function of government?