[identity profile] udoswald.livejournal.com 2011-06-21 02:33 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, 9-0 is unanimous. If this case was decided 9-0 I would agree it was unanimous. Unfortunately for your delicate little feelings, this case was decided 5-4 along partisan lines. The only thing that was even close to 9-0 was a small technicality. On the matter of whether the class could be certified, and on the matter of whether the plaintiffs had any sort of case, the decision was 5-4. Get over it, since when does it matter to you what the libs think when your side wins?

[identity profile] badlydrawnjeff.livejournal.com 2011-06-21 02:41 am (UTC)(link)
I mean, this is where you're 100% factually wrong. (http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/10pdf/10-277.pdf)

SCALIA, J., delivered the opinion of the Court, in which ROBERTS,
C. J., and KENNEDY, THOMAS, and ALITO, JJ., joined, and in which GINSBURG, BREYER, SOTOMAYOR, and KAGAN, JJ., joined as to Parts I and III


The basics of the case, Part I, and the addendum regarding back pay, Part III, were unanimous. Part II, which regarded questions of scope that did not impact the overall result of the ruling (as all 9 agreed that there should not have been certification) was the only part with a dissent, and thus Part II is still a majority opinion but not unanimous. So yes, 9-0, as in the key part of the case and the third part, is unanimous.

[identity profile] udoswald.livejournal.com 2011-06-21 02:53 am (UTC)(link)
SCALIA, J., delivered the opinion of the Court, in which ROBERTS,
C. J., and KENNEDY, THOMAS, and ALITO, JJ., joined, and in which GINSBURG, BREYER, SOTOMAYOR, and KAGAN, JJ., joined as to Parts I and III


You do realize there are three parts of the case and that they didn't just skip part II as some sort of stylistic choice, right?

Part I was meaningless, it was a laying out of the facts of the case that would have been identical regardless of the final decision. It's like saying someone agreed to the Index at the front of a book.

Part III was regarding the backpay part of the case. It was a minor technicality and was not really all that important given the disagreement over Part II.

Part II was the meat of the argument. The cons argued that the women had no case against WalMart (regardless of their class status) and also argued that their claim of clss status was not valid and that there was no way they could qualify to be a class. The libs on the other hand argued that their case had merit and that they could get class certification by relying on a different part of the class-action laws. How you think those two views are the same boggles my mind.

I'm sure there are plenty of cases where the minority agrees with the majority on one point or another, in order for the case to be unanimous they have to agree on all the important points not just some of them. The cons sent these women home empty handed, the libs would have sent them back to the lower court that already certified their class to try again, those are two very different things.

[identity profile] badlydrawnjeff.livejournal.com 2011-06-21 02:57 am (UTC)(link)
I'm sure there are plenty of cases where the minority agrees with the majority on one point or another, in order for the case to be unanimous they have to agree on all the important points not just some of them. The cons sent these women home empty handed, the libs would have sent them back to the lower court that already certified their class to try again, those are two very different things.

And all 9 agreed that the case shouldn't have been certified.

Meanwhile, I showed you the unanimous ruling, and you then claim it doesn't exist. Not that you had it to begin with, but there goes any high ground you had regarding the facts. I think we're done here, but I'm sure you'll get some snappy, sarcastic last word in anyway.

[identity profile] udoswald.livejournal.com 2011-06-21 03:03 am (UTC)(link)
Meanwhile, I showed you the unanimous ruling, and you then claim it doesn't exist.

If you show me where in that paragraph it says "unanimous", I'll buy you a cake (the cake is a lie).

I think we're done here, but I'm sure you'll get some snappy, sarcastic last word in anyway.

My irony meter just exploded.

I accept your surrender and thank you for finally admitting you are wrong. Now go slink off to your room so you can have some quality alone time with your copy of Atlas Shrugged and write in your journal about how totally lame liberals are.

[identity profile] udoswald.livejournal.com 2011-06-21 03:18 am (UTC)(link)
Hint: Here's what a unanimous decision looks like:

KAGAN, J., delivered the opinion for a unanimous Court. SOTOMAYOR, J., filed a concurring opinion, in which ALITO, J., joined. (Tapia v. United States)

Notice the use of the word "unanimous" in there and no mention of dissenting opinions.
Edited 2011-06-21 03:19 (UTC)

[identity profile] badlydrawnjeff.livejournal.com 2011-06-21 02:04 pm (UTC)(link)
You really don't know when to give up, do you? When 9 justices agree on something, it means its unanimous. Quit digging.

[identity profile] udoswald.livejournal.com 2011-06-21 02:05 pm (UTC)(link)
I thought you gave up? I'm disappointed, choosing to give up was the first good decision you'd made all day.

[identity profile] badlydrawnjeff.livejournal.com 2011-06-21 02:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Don't confuse giving up with knowing that the truth won't penetrate.