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China is waging a cultural war against Tibet, and we oppose that as well. China has committed some human rights violations in response to protests in Tibet, but at least they aren't indiscriminately firebombing Tibetan schools. As for the French, the Russians, and the British, the obvious difference is that those are nationalities, not races, and those nations don't practice anything like Israel's racist oppression of the native people of the artificial Jewish homeland.

so jews are now not only a nationality and a religion but also a race? Maybe even all separate specie all together?

Perhaps ethnicity is a better word. My point still stands.

Don't act like this is news to you. Jewish identity has always been both ethnic and religious. The concept of Jewish nationality has only existed since the arbitrary creation of Israel in 1948. And it's not even the existence of a Jewish nation I protest, but the racist and terroristic policies of that nation.

Jewish being a race is a news to me. Being jewish myself I kinda know who I am thank you very much :)

Too bad I can't tell my ancestor that them considering themselves a nation for the past 3000 years was a mistake.

Being Jewish is definitely an ethnicity. It's not "pure" in any sense, but then, nobody's is. Many people who do not practice Judaism still identify themselves as ethnically Jewish. If that's news to you, you've really been living in a fantasy world.

And your ancestors might have viewed themselves as a nation in exile, but the reality is that Jews were scattered across the globe and completely lacked a national identity until 1948. Wishing otherwise doesn't change history.

I'm not talking about nationality as in citizenship but about collective of people sharing a national identity, based on ethnic and cultural ties and self-determination

Ethnic ties? I thought you were claiming it's not an ethnicity.

Anyway, for the sake of argument, let's say you're right. Let's say that Jews are a nation in exile, and that the right of self-determination (a right I champion, by the way) entitles them to their own state. That's still not a defense for Israel's racist and terroristic treatment of Palestinians.

i was saying that it is an ethnicity(nationality) and religion not a race.

It's not a defense and I cannot wait until Israel pulls out of West Bank and treats it as neighboring state. But for that you not only need political will of israeli government but also for palestinian parties to acknowledge the existence of the State of Israel.

That's only true if you set a beginning point as well as an end point. Jews have lacked a national identity FROM a couple of thousand years ago until 1948 give or take a few years.