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politicartoons2009-10-14 02:35 pm
dwer.livejournal.com) wrote in politicartoons2009-10-14 02:35 pm
So, the amount of resources required to change the lives of a thousand people misses the amount of resources required for an Olympic event by a few orders of magnitude. If it were really just about the athletes, let's save 99.99% of our money and dispense with the audience and the advertisers, and just provide some grants to amateur athletics.
But people who care about the success or failure of the President, they're concerned to the tune of millions of people and livelihoods, not thousands, and next to that, the personal challenges and glory of a tiny minority of athletes seems totally ephemeral to me. Besides, I'm at least 40% sure that Michael Phelps is a robot.
But people who care about the success or failure of the President, they're concerned to the tune of millions of people and livelihoods, not thousands, and next to that, the personal challenges and glory of a tiny minority of athletes seems totally ephemeral to me. Besides, I'm at least 40% sure that Michael Phelps is a robot.
Prove yourself right first.
What does? I'm sure tort reform's part of it, but not the whole. You Megan McArdle article was good reading, but it occurred to me by the end of it that she had still completely failed to offer a solution that adapted to the conditions she laid out.
So now, what does?
So now, what does?
Hmmm, well here's a test.
Let's say I'm the President. You're the Senate Majority Leader. I am asking for a bill on my desk ASAP that will require all the banks, financial firms, etc to pay back all TARP and bailout money by the end of the year or be forced out of business.
Do you give me the bill?
Let's say I'm the President. You're the Senate Majority Leader. I am asking for a bill on my desk ASAP that will require all the banks, financial firms, etc to pay back all TARP and bailout money by the end of the year or be forced out of business.
Do you give me the bill?
What does? I'm sure tort reform's part of it, but not the whole.
certainly not the whole. not even close.
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-malpractice10-2009oct10,0,4877440.story
certainly not the whole. not even close.
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-malpractice10-2009oct10,0,4877440.story
they blame congress for attempting health reform that the insurance companies have to lobby against.
or actually they blame the damn bleeding heart liberals for bugging congress about all this in the first place...
or actually they blame the damn bleeding heart liberals for bugging congress about all this in the first place...
what would you surgest?
countrys with singal payer seem to do well, i love the NHS witch has served me in good times and bad well, and other countrys with highly regulated insrunces systems seem to do quite well. would you prefer strong regultion?
countrys with singal payer seem to do well, i love the NHS witch has served me in good times and bad well, and other countrys with highly regulated insrunces systems seem to do quite well. would you prefer strong regultion?
'Cuz it works so massively suckily for all the other countries that have single-payer, that they all voted it out and are now all paying ultrarich megacorporations for their healthcare instead, and getting denied care and coverage for ridiculous pre-existing conditions that aren't conditions at all.
Oh wait, no they're not, because they're not morons.
Oh wait, no they're not, because they're not morons.
I'd rather they used the fucking money I pay them to take care of my fucking health.
Holy god, I'd vote for you for President on that basis alone.
Cool.
As a gay liberal atheist, look for me on the SnowballsChanceInHell ticket.
Can we make the government give back all our tax money too or be forced out of business?
No, they need it to, ya know, keep this country up and functional.
I do, however, support Crazy Ron Paul's fed audit bill. Because, hey, fair enough.
Cool.
As a gay liberal atheist, look for me on the SnowballsChanceInHell ticket.
Can we make the government give back all our tax money too or be forced out of business?
No, they need it to, ya know, keep this country up and functional.
I do, however, support Crazy Ron Paul's fed audit bill. Because, hey, fair enough.
In my case they already do that to my complete satisfaction.
good thing anecdote =/= data. Because your complete satisfaction is not the be-all and end-all of health-care reform.
but you know. Way to use the "screw you jack, I got mine" theory of social justice.
Not me. I pay massive cash and my employer pays even more than that, and the company in question is one of the five biggest in the US, and yet when I want to get my annual checkup, the doctor basically takes my blood pressure, listens to my chest, pokes me in the liver and then sends me to a lab, where I have to wait an hour or more and pay another copayment and then wait a couple more weeks to hear the results. Never mind that my doctor has his own lab onsite. This is the same company that wouldn't pay for my wife to have a mammogram citing pre-existing condition. What pre-existing condition, I hear you cry, could possibly be a criterion for deying a TEST to see if you MIGHT have breast cancer or some other problem? Having breasts is a pre-existing condition? And now I find out all this hassle and all this denial of service is so they can save money to lobby Congress and run advertisements on teevee to convince me that everything is fine the way it is. Yeah, fuck no it's not. My daughter *does* have a pre-existing condition so she'll never have real medical coverage in her life, unless there's some kind of plan coming from Congress. And part of the money I pay to my insurer goes to lobby Congress to ensure there will never be a change. Again, y'know what, fuck them and their goddamn advertising and their goddamn lobbying; their job is to, within reason, ensure I get to see a doctor and that I don't die from something stupid. It is NOT their job to make obscene profits and shovel cash into the pockets of shareholders who couldn't possibly give a fuck about some little girl who won't ever have health insurance. So fuck them all to Hell.
JUST PULL YOURSELF UP BY YOUR BOOTSTRAPS LAD
EVERYTHING IS FINE JUST THE WAY IT IS
THE MAGICAL INVISIBLE HAND OF THE FREE MARKET WILL CURE YOUR DAUGHTER'S AILMENTS
EVERYTHING IS FINE JUST THE WAY IT IS
THE MAGICAL INVISIBLE HAND OF THE FREE MARKET WILL CURE YOUR DAUGHTER'S AILMENTS
Oh wait, no they're not, because they're not morons.
Are we really sure about that?
Are we really sure about that?
Hell yes. Again, I lean very heavily on the libertarian side of things federally - that means rights of the individual and Constitutional adherence.
"...we'll all pay for you to go to the hospital."
Not me. I say that once health reform care passes, we forbid everyone who opposed it from having insurance at all. I'm quite confident that the various charity organizations/free clinics around the nation will take good care of them. ;)
Not me. I say that once health reform care passes, we forbid everyone who opposed it from having insurance at all. I'm quite confident that the various charity organizations/free clinics around the nation will take good care of them. ;)
I hear you. I really wish you get some health care for your girl. I just don't see how things can get better with the bill we have in Congress.
There's no free market there. It's dead for a very long time.
a bill that forces banks out of business doesn't sound too sound on several fronts.
For starters, insurance companies couldn't charge more for preconditions and/or outright deny insurance.
Plus one of the things government should do is care for the welfare of those who need it most. A sick person being denied insurance and thus the ability to live seems like someone in pretty dire need.
Plus one of the things government should do is care for the welfare of those who need it most. A sick person being denied insurance and thus the ability to live seems like someone in pretty dire need.
what you say? Government provide for the well being of it's citizens?
Outrageous! Government is clearly supposed to be made up of people who, in response to entreaties for help, reply "BOOTSTRAPS!"
And then bomb you, if you're brown.
Outrageous! Government is clearly supposed to be made up of people who, in response to entreaties for help, reply "BOOTSTRAPS!"
And then bomb you, if you're brown.
"insurance companies couldn't charge more for preconditions and/or outright deny insurance" - what do you think will be immediate consequence of that? Right away?
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