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politicartoons2009-10-06 05:39 am
i.livejournal.com) wrote in politicartoons2009-10-06 05:39 am
Quite accurate in a number of cases.
I found it annoying that when Obama was elected so many people suggested that it meant that black people in America can't complain of racism any more. As if having a black president means that all racism has disappeared.
I found it annoying that when Obama was elected so many people suggested that it meant that black people in America can't complain of racism any more. As if having a black president means that all racism has disappeared.
Yeah, you could say that much in three panels.
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I think a few mindless cable news talking heads probably did say something like that in the immediate aftermath of Obama being elected. And since the right assumes the media is "the left"... well, you can see how these memes start.
I am annoyed by Tori's newly discovered love of trolling too, but calling her (???) a bitch is excessively personal and nasty. Just my two cents.
Rise above, and all that.
(Except for badlydrawnjeff... I still think he's a condescending sh*thead (http://community.livejournal.com/politicartoons/1590970.html?thread=33960122#t33960122).)
Rise above, and all that.
(Except for badlydrawnjeff... I still think he's a condescending sh*thead (http://community.livejournal.com/politicartoons/1590970.html?thread=33960122#t33960122).)
Tori'a a him. Badlydrawn may be condescending from time to time, but at least he's got a brain. I'm pretty sure we can turn on the condescension when it serves us.
calling her "someone's bitch" is different from calling her "a bitch".
Lather = Beavis; Tori = Butt-Head.
Butt-Head's "I have an idea" is a dusty 15-watt night light; Beavis's is a cracked shard with one bit of wire in a rusty socket that's not plugged into anything.
Butt-Head's "I have an idea" is a dusty 15-watt night light; Beavis's is a cracked shard with one bit of wire in a rusty socket that's not plugged into anything.
Again, it's not that we're less racist, we're just better at hiding it. Give people anonymity on the internet and it all comes out (cf. 4chan).
Or if people assume you already agree with them, as in my customer who said something like, "Hope they don't put that nigger Obama on any coin."
Ah yes, I love you Kansas.
Or if people assume you already agree with them, as in my customer who said something like, "Hope they don't put that nigger Obama on any coin."
Ah yes, I love you Kansas.
Is any posting of non-liberal cartoons considered a trolling here?
It is when they admit (http://community.livejournal.com/politicartoons/1593780.html?thread=34005172#t34005172) they're simply posting to start shit. That is, literally, the definition (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_(Internet)) of trolling.
Well, in according with Wiki it probably is. Never liked that definition, though. Posting irrelevant stuff is on thing, and posting something controversial - totally another. Without that there will be no discussions. Wouldn't it be boring just to pat each other's backs?
There's a difference between posting a cartoon with a differing point-of-view and posting something simply to start shit. Is "Tori" really a Birther? If so, then yes it's simply a different point of view. But I'll give him (her?) the benefit of the doubt and assume they're not a lunatic conspiracy theorist. In which case, yes it is trolling to post a Birther entry and a really bad, lazy one at that.
Hope not. Some really fun discussions happen more often than not in right-wing cartoons than in left wing ones. Some really great, devastating left cartoons have gone nearly uncommented, whereas some right wing slapfights are epic.
That's a fine balance though. Some of what lather posts and Tori have posted recently have been marginally NSFW.
That's a fine balance though. Some of what lather posts and Tori have posted recently have been marginally NSFW.
From time (12:00:01 am) to time (11:59:59 pm).
The goal here isn't to pat each other's backs, but it certainly isn't to toss feces at people to watch how they run around.
Trolling is posting something in a disingenuous or confrontational manner solely to get negative reactions. If your point isn't to present a legitimate point for rational debate, then you're breaking the rules of the community.
Trolling is posting something in a disingenuous or confrontational manner solely to get negative reactions. If your point isn't to present a legitimate point for rational debate, then you're breaking the rules of the community.
I see here examples like this (http://community.livejournal.com/politicartoons/1591949.html?thread=33975437#t33975437) way too often. Non-liberal cartoons are met here with pointless insults, endless ad hominem attacks, and several community members, in fact, almost never offer anything more substantial than another "derp derp" (http://community.livejournal.com/politicartoons/1594034.html?thread=34012594#t34012594). You can be sure you'll get some comments like this if you post conservative cartoon.
I mean I'm not sure everybody here understands what the goal here is the same way you do.
I mean I'm not sure everybody here understands what the goal here is the same way you do.
Perhaps. I can say the same thing about a whole lot of what other guys post here too: some of it is - you know. But they are not trolls, right? Nobody except Lather and now Tori?
It seems to me that trolling accusation became somewhat a standard way to block non-liberal cartoons here.
BTW, don't remember any devastating cartoons in this community. Neither left, nor right. Cartoons here are good as a discussion starting point only.
It seems to me that trolling accusation became somewhat a standard way to block non-liberal cartoons here.
BTW, don't remember any devastating cartoons in this community. Neither left, nor right. Cartoons here are good as a discussion starting point only.
There is a huge amount of community difference between saying "Derp Derp", and saying "Obama is re-instituting slavery". Do you agree?
Quite simply, many of the non-liberal cartoons that have been posted as of late have been setting off the troll-o-meter pretty heavy. I've been hoping that people would simply stop taking the bait, but it appears I'm going to have to be a bit more active since people are willing to admit they are trolling in the comments.
You are welcome to post "Derp Derp" to any left-wing nonsense that comes onto your screen, but if people keep making entire posts to use some trigger issue in a disingenuous manner to illicit response for your entertainment, then I'm going to start taking action.
Quite simply, many of the non-liberal cartoons that have been posted as of late have been setting off the troll-o-meter pretty heavy. I've been hoping that people would simply stop taking the bait, but it appears I'm going to have to be a bit more active since people are willing to admit they are trolling in the comments.
You are welcome to post "Derp Derp" to any left-wing nonsense that comes onto your screen, but if people keep making entire posts to use some trigger issue in a disingenuous manner to illicit response for your entertainment, then I'm going to start taking action.
I tend to agree, but there is a nuance: it's not always easy to tell one from another. When I post something I usually have both goals in mind.
lather <> conservatives.
I could count on one hand the number of non-lather posts that have been met with that level of derision. As I said way back, he's free to post, and we're free to hold his every word in contempt based on what he's said before.
I could count on one hand the number of non-lather posts that have been met with that level of derision. As I said way back, he's free to post, and we're free to hold his every word in contempt based on what he's said before.
There is a huge amount of community difference between saying "Derp Derp", and saying "Obama is re-instituting slavery". Do you agree?
Yes, I do. There is a difference. First statement is controversial, but deserves discussion. What Obama is doing is not re-instituting slavery, of course, but there is some trend to limit people freedom, as usual during the government expansion periods, and this cartoon reminds about that in a way, traditonal for this genre. It's a legitimate thing. "Derp Derp", on the other hand, doesn't contain anything. The only thing the comment like this can demonstrate is that commenter is too stupid to find better arguments.
That's why I have to decline your invitation to post "derp derp" comments. I prefer to express myself on a different level, although I have to admit that I was tempted to do something like this several times.
Hope you will not be biased in being a bit more active. I kind of voted for you.
Yes, I do. There is a difference. First statement is controversial, but deserves discussion. What Obama is doing is not re-instituting slavery, of course, but there is some trend to limit people freedom, as usual during the government expansion periods, and this cartoon reminds about that in a way, traditonal for this genre. It's a legitimate thing. "Derp Derp", on the other hand, doesn't contain anything. The only thing the comment like this can demonstrate is that commenter is too stupid to find better arguments.
That's why I have to decline your invitation to post "derp derp" comments. I prefer to express myself on a different level, although I have to admit that I was tempted to do something like this several times.
Hope you will not be biased in being a bit more active. I kind of voted for you.
I have, er, my own experience here. That was very educational.
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