[identity profile] johnny9fingers.livejournal.com 2009-09-16 02:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Not bad at all.

But I think, like Mark Twain, the reports of the Heffalump's death are somewhat exaggerated.

With the right sort of straight-jacket they could be stopped from harming themselves unto death: but they do need to treat the insanity and the stupidity.

[identity profile] blueduck37.livejournal.com 2009-09-16 02:39 pm (UTC)(link)
I think they'll pick up some House seats for sure, but not nearly enough to gain the majority. The Senate will probably not change all that much.

[identity profile] johnny9fingers.livejournal.com 2009-09-16 03:42 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree with [livejournal.com profile] blueduck37. A few seats, but not enough to change the present status quo. However....a lot depends on Murdoch's various organs of dissemination. With luck the more extreme viewpoints will be marginalised even further, which may well push 'em over the edge - then anything can happen.

From the outside, it seems that Obama is trying to bring sense to a country divided like never before: and what is more complicating is he has become the living symbol of everything which divides the US. The objection to his presence in office has provided the evidence that the 'good' America is under fire from some of the most unpleasant folk America has lurking in its unlit corners.

Folk of the right, who object to Obama's policies from a rational position (and there are some, right or wrong) have used the extremist and racist rump to bolster their numbers, when they perhaps should have been distancing themselves from such folk. Lie down with dogs, as one cartoon put it recently.....

[identity profile] lather2002.livejournal.com 2009-09-16 04:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Image (http://www.flickr.com/photos/48544571@N00/3919489360/)

[identity profile] spencer-mato.livejournal.com 2009-09-16 04:15 pm (UTC)(link)
It's tragic to me that people are making assumptions about what end of life care is. End of life care is counseling for those who are dying. Studies were done that those who get counseling actually live a little longer and better lives in the last few months than those who don't receive it. Also, most private insurance companies include it in their policies too, so another shitty misdirection by the republicans.

[identity profile] lather2002.livejournal.com 2009-09-16 04:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Image (http://www.flickr.com/photos/48544571@N00/3919013543/)

[identity profile] lather2002.livejournal.com 2009-09-16 04:24 pm (UTC)(link)
mmm ... The bulk of Medicare is spent on the last year or so on the care and such of a person's life usually. So tell me, where do you think Obama is talking about when he says he is gonna cut several billion from Medicare ?

http://www.thirteen.org/bid/sb-howmuch.html

[identity profile] dwer.livejournal.com 2009-09-16 04:45 pm (UTC)(link)
he's talking about removing inefficiencies in the system. Streamlining paperwork. that sort of thing.

Not that you're interested.

[identity profile] xforge.livejournal.com 2009-09-16 04:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Telling people what it's like for their bodies to be connected to wires and tubes for the last several months of their lives while their brain and organs rot away sufficiently for someone to be able to pronounce them unrevivable, rather than dying naturally and not costing their insurer (Medicare) tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars, is where.

[identity profile] pacotelic.livejournal.com 2009-09-16 05:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh. OK.

not surprising

[identity profile] i.livejournal.com 2009-09-16 05:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Grammar Fail

Re: not surprising

[identity profile] i.livejournal.com 2009-09-16 05:26 pm (UTC)(link)
the difference is, we don't post such signs as "clever" rebuttals to comments.

[identity profile] kgbman.livejournal.com 2009-09-16 05:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Less than ten years ago you could have switched the characters and the cartoon would have been just as effective. Partisans are always predicting the "death" of the other party, but given enough time or a big enough issue and they'll come back.
weswilson: (Default)

[personal profile] weswilson 2009-09-16 06:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Bookies appear to be saying there will be significant gains by the GOP. I think the democrats greatly exaggerate how damaged the Republican party is.

[identity profile] spencer-mato.livejournal.com 2009-09-16 06:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Shit, my boyfriend has a DNR on his life and he's only 20. Sometimes you'll come back worse with brain issues and such. Much better to slip away comfortably at home instead of being hooked up to machines constantly for a few months. I think that's how my grandpa did it with his cancer. And I'm sure my grandmother is going to do it just the same(but that's because she's a stubborn old lady).

[identity profile] xforge.livejournal.com 2009-09-16 07:14 pm (UTC)(link)
I seem to remember some talk of changes in at-home care policy. One of the few good things that got done under the Bush administration, I think. I could be talking out my ass of course.

[identity profile] i.livejournal.com 2009-09-16 08:02 pm (UTC)(link)
the "ideas" monitor should be flatlined.

[identity profile] caerfrli.livejournal.com 2009-09-16 10:10 pm (UTC)(link)
so when can we expect a resurgence of the Whigs?

[identity profile] kgbman.livejournal.com 2009-09-16 10:15 pm (UTC)(link)
They all joined the Republican Party. Abraham Lincoln started his career as a Whig.

[identity profile] kgbman.livejournal.com 2009-09-16 10:21 pm (UTC)(link)
In retrospect, I should have made a distinction between the party and the principles that anchor them. The Democratic and Republican parties could both go extinct tomorrow, but that wouldn't mean liberalism and conservatism as we know them would go away. The Whig Party is extinct, but Whig ideas carried over into the Republican Party. The same with Jefferson's Democratic-Republicans and Jackson's Democrats.

[identity profile] pacotelic.livejournal.com 2009-09-17 01:40 am (UTC)(link)
Scary. There's no "Contract with America", no animating intellectual concept, just "no". I know I though Gingrich was bad, but he looks like Locke compared to these people.

[identity profile] lather2002.livejournal.com 2009-09-17 04:30 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah sure and chickens have lips.

[identity profile] dwer.livejournal.com 2009-09-17 02:32 pm (UTC)(link)
well, you can believe the man elected by the people, or you can believe the racist asshole who called him a liar and was censured for it.