[identity profile] chasovschik.livejournal.com 2009-09-09 06:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Some of them do. That's the beauty of the moment: if Obama goes for public option, he alienates conservatives, independents, and even some Democrats. If he drops public option, he alienates his base as well. It's not easy to get oneself into position like this. He is very talented politician.

[identity profile] dwer.livejournal.com 2009-09-09 06:11 pm (UTC)(link)
if Obama goes for public option, he alienates conservatives, independents, and even some Democrats.

I think you strongly overestimate the distaste for the public option among democrats and independents. He needs the public option to keep the public.

And the republicans can go fuck themselves. They're very good at it.

[identity profile] chasovschik.livejournal.com 2009-09-09 06:18 pm (UTC)(link)
As far as health care reform is concerned, Democrats are much better at fucking themselves. Fabulous results.

[identity profile] dwer.livejournal.com 2009-09-09 06:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Because they consistently pander to the GOP. Time for that to change.

[identity profile] chasovschik.livejournal.com 2009-09-09 06:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Uh-huh. Change, hope... good luck with that.

[identity profile] dwer.livejournal.com 2009-09-09 06:27 pm (UTC)(link)
yep. This is why there's no reason to negotiate with them. They'll force you to compromise, then vote against you anyway.