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[madam-shapo.livejournal.com]

Let me ask you this.
Have you ever been in any other country?
Is there any other country that people want to move in the same or higher rate like USA?
Where would you personally prefer to live, forget you were born here?

[phildegrave]

Have you ever been to Canada? Australia? New Zealand? They're all pretty nice places. They also have single payer health care.

[moonshaz.livejournal.com]

Exactly.

[phildegrave]

Yup!

[madam-shapo.livejournal.com]

No, I haven't been in Canada, but everyone I know there is trying to get a green card.

[phildegrave]

I guess to them universal health care is the turd that ruins the punch bowl.

[moonshaz.livejournal.com]

The only other country I've visited is Canada, and it was a very nice place. I also know enough about the world to know that there are some countries that do suck (in terms of my personal values), a lot of others that don't, and a great many that fall in between. As I said before, most places have some good aspects AND some bad aspects, including the US.

As far as where I'd prefer to live, I'm okay living here, at least or the time being, although the part of IL I live in is a bit red for my tastes. However, I'd definitely consider moving to either Canada or the UK, if not for things like family considerations. Some of Canada's immigration laws would be problematic for me, but since my father was a UK citizen when I was born, I might be able to get a toe in the door a little more easily there, according to the research I've done.

(Before you start going off on what's wrong with Canada and/or the UK, let me just point out that you don't live in either of them, so you don't REALLY know what it's like to live in either place, any more than I do.)

I still stand by my previous assertion that "the rest of the world sucks" is way too broad of a generalization to have any validity. It's meaningless hyperbole.

I wouldn't argue with the idea that there are countries that sound like pretty crappy places to live, but the WHOLE "rest of the world" outside the US "sucks"? Give me a break! Unless you've been to every single corner of the globe, there's NO WAY you could know what the entire "rest of the world" is like, much less whether ALL of it "sucks."

[madam-shapo.livejournal.com]

Ok, maybe, I should of say 'USA is the best place to be'. Would you agree now? Of course, people have different preferences. Some would never ever live anywhere other than Afghanistan. Some like Sweden because of generous welfare system. I am talking from point of view what you can do with your life.

[moonshaz.livejournal.com]

I don't think "the USA is the best place to be" for everyone. It's great in some ways, but in other ways it sucks.

For example, if I had a very complicated chronic health problem requiring frequent hospital visits and medical procedures and multiple medications on an ongoing basis, I think that a country with universal health care would be a better place for me to be than the USA. I wouldn't have to worry about losing everything I own, including the roof over my head, due to inability to pay my medical bills in the UK, for example.

On the other hand, as long as I'm reasonably healthy (which I am) and/or very, very wealthy (which I'm a long way from being), the US is a pretty good place to be.

What I'm trying to say is that the "best" place to be depends largely on one's personal situation and needs. The US is certainly the "best" place--or at least one of the best places--for some people--but not for others.

[madam-shapo.livejournal.com]

Of course, for a villager from Afghanistan it's horrible place, because women run around half-naked all over the streets.
I disagree with you on healthcare. There is no questions that the costs are very high, but democrats caused the increase, by asserting too many regulations and uncontrollable immigration. I am not going to go into proofs, it's seems pretty clear to me. In case of UK and similar countries, through it's cost free, but the care isn't so great. Did you hear about, I think, Liverpool? Also, it isn't sustainable. Remember Greece.

Let me put it this way-US is the only country you can start at middle age from 0 and become somebody.