[identity profile] yes-justice.livejournal.com 2013-10-10 02:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Can you feed your family on your minimum wage?

[identity profile] yes-justice.livejournal.com 2013-10-10 05:02 pm (UTC)(link)
that's not really what minimum wage jobs exist to do

And yet.

[identity profile] catlin.livejournal.com 2013-10-10 10:06 pm (UTC)(link)
There are a Lot of folks trying to feed their families on minimum wage, or close to it, for lack of better paying jobs.

[identity profile] red-pill.livejournal.com 2013-10-11 07:00 am (UTC)(link)
alas, its the only thing avable to meny. prahapse we ought to get them a towle. (i dont think anyone whos trying to make do on minium wage likes it)

[identity profile] oslo.livejournal.com 2013-10-11 09:52 am (UTC)(link)
I don't understand why you're so teleological about it. Minimum wage jobs aren't "for" teenage laborers who only need to earn money for leisure any more than they are "for" workers who need to support themselves. All that we need really to say about them is that: they're jobs that are out there, there are people who need jobs badly enough to apply for them, and those people happen to include a lot of people who need to support themselves and their families.

Not that you are the slightest bit capable of recognizing this, but what you're doing is invoking some arbitrary and unprovable telos for minimum wage work in order to make the moral case that we shouldn't care about the fact that minimum wage workers are struggling to survive. You intuit that this is the thing to do here because you misread proponents for minimum wage hikes to be making purely a moral claim that businesses (or society or government or whatever) should be making life more livable for these people. But that's not the claim they're making; they're making a more complex claim that, as a matter of policy, a minimum wage hike would (at least temporarily) be a better way to help minimum wage workers help themselves than relying on informal and state support networks to take care of their unmet basic needs.