It was a a weird, disheartening experience for me. I barely saw any of it because I was looking up their assertions the whole time, so mostly I was just hearing it. To me Romney came off as rude, repetitive, dishonest, and yet again doing 180s on his own positions, and Obama came off as somewhat less rude, more substantiative, less dishonest (you take what you can get) and kind of appalled at Romney. Then I sat in for the post-debate analysis on PBS and all they talked about was how Romney crushed it because he looked happier to be there and looked at the camera more. It wasn't until "Charlie Rose" came on that anyone mentioned what they talked about for more than five seconds at a time, it seemed like.
Forgot to say, worst part: the guy who said that during a debate you should really turn the sound off for a moment and see how the candidates look to get a real feel of how it's going. Honestly!
In regards to debate performance, and style versus substance for a presidential debate and who "won? Yeah, Nixon and Kennedy? Yeah, don't kid yourself Obama won because he had substance (I don't think he had much fight in him at all). And it doesn't Romney was wrong or lying or doing a live-etch-a-sketch transfomation. The entire debate was geared to "low information" voters in swing states. Most of them wouldn't know about Bowles-Simpson if they ran over it with their car. There were mind numbing moments where Obama just got so lost and the weeds over wonky stuff and missing the big picture. And substance? Seriously the President's substance sandwich could have used some serious beefing up, he never mentioned the private sector job increase, and let lots of golden moments slide by (Romney chiding the President for green investment money "Where you invest a lot of money says a lot about the person." REALLY? Obama didn't pursue that golden opportunity. Or Bain? And they didn't have to be personal attacks.
Looks like to me Obama's advisers thought his "nice guy image" and likeability numbers are so high, he just had to play defense. Why the hell would Obama's closing statement (something he's known for months to prepare for) be so defeatist and be essentially "I know I'm not a perfect man, and I've made mistakes, something that Governor Romney would agree with?"
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politicartoons2012-10-03 08:50 pm
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Forgot to say, worst part: the guy who said that during a debate you should really turn the sound off for a moment and see how the candidates look to get a real feel of how it's going. Honestly!
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Even PBS, whose funding he straight out said he plans to cut off, went, kneejerk, for style over substance.
Idiocracy indeed.
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In regards to debate performance, and style versus substance for a presidential debate and who "won? Yeah, Nixon and Kennedy? Yeah, don't kid yourself Obama won because he had substance (I don't think he had much fight in him at all). And it doesn't Romney was wrong or lying or doing a live-etch-a-sketch transfomation. The entire debate was geared to "low information" voters in swing states. Most of them wouldn't know about Bowles-Simpson if they ran over it with their car. There were mind numbing moments where Obama just got so lost and the weeds over wonky stuff and missing the big picture. And substance? Seriously the President's substance sandwich could have used some serious beefing up, he never mentioned the private sector job increase, and let lots of golden moments slide by (Romney chiding the President for green investment money "Where you invest a lot of money says a lot about the person." REALLY? Obama didn't pursue that golden opportunity. Or Bain? And they didn't have to be personal attacks.
Looks like to me Obama's advisers thought his "nice guy image" and likeability numbers are so high, he just had to play defense. Why the hell would Obama's closing statement (something he's known for months to prepare for) be so defeatist and be essentially "I know I'm not a perfect man, and I've made mistakes, something that Governor Romney would agree with?"
WTF dude, Dumb move.