[identity profile] pacotelic.livejournal.com 2009-10-06 08:01 pm (UTC)(link)
I have never dismissed what you have written out of hand. Maybe rough, but I explained myself, and I paid attention to what you had to say. With lather, I came to see that was a waste of time. Hence : "derp" for lather.

[identity profile] pacotelic.livejournal.com 2009-10-06 08:03 pm (UTC)(link)
True. A cartoon's merit is partially how much discussion it provokes. As the audience gets more homogenous, less discussion will be started, as everyone will agree, "tut-tut", and read on.

Look at poli_toons, a dull fishbowl of conservative toons and members.

[identity profile] chasovschik.livejournal.com 2009-10-06 08:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Actually I didn't mean you personally. I appreciate your ability to hear your opponent, it's a rather rare quality.
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[personal profile] weswilson 2009-10-06 08:05 pm (UTC)(link)
If someone posted "War for Oil" cartoons every day for three months, then I can bet the right-wing DERP DERP replies would only be challenged by the vast number of WAAARGHARBL macros. I think that the partisanship of the replies cannot be separated from the partisanship of the posts themselves. At some point, the inanity of particular partisan points must either face legitimate critique or end up being ridiculed for being oblivious.

When I was a kid, I read one of my mom's books, "I'm OK, You're OK." The basic premise is simple, if you talk to people in a condescending manner, you should be surprised when you get replies that seem snotty and immature. When you talk to people like a victim, you shouldn't be surprised when people get parental. None of this justifies the tone of the responses, but the negative replies do not justify the tone of the original interaction.

I hold posts to the community to a higher standard than I hold replies to individual posts. How we begin our conversation is just as important as how we continue it.

[identity profile] chasovschik.livejournal.com 2009-10-06 08:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Didn't know about them, thanks. Will have a look.
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[personal profile] weswilson 2009-10-06 08:08 pm (UTC)(link)
I have tried to engage you as well, but ran into a wall when I realized that no source I offered was ever legitimate enough for you. If there can never be a common perception between two people, then there can never be a civil discussion. So I just stopped replying.

After you run off the sane ones, all you have left are the crazies.

[identity profile] chasovschik.livejournal.com 2009-10-06 08:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Frankly, I don't remember what we were discussing. Some topics indeed have no legitimate sources from my point of view. At least, I haven't seen them so far.

After you run off the sane ones, all you have left are the crazies.

This is very true. Can be observed in any echo chamber.

[identity profile] mcpreacher.livejournal.com 2009-10-06 08:20 pm (UTC)(link)
and he always has to raise his hand and argue some inane point with the professor

and he's worn polo shirts since he was potty-trained

[identity profile] mcpreacher.livejournal.com 2009-10-06 08:26 pm (UTC)(link)
it's just racism 2.0

at best obama will be called "one of the good ones"

a figure white people can point at and say "why can't you be like him? talk nice to us, don't raise your voice, have a non-threatening family. we might let you join our country club then. oh you also have to look like you just have a tan, we're not quite ready for really dark ones."

[identity profile] edgar-suit.livejournal.com 2009-10-06 08:33 pm (UTC)(link)
White people like black people who act like white people (see also: Tiger Woods).

I disagree

[identity profile] pacotelic.livejournal.com 2009-10-06 09:25 pm (UTC)(link)
but I need to use this image here:

Image

[identity profile] donkeyjon.livejournal.com 2009-10-06 10:14 pm (UTC)(link)
I like pie!

[identity profile] pacotelic.livejournal.com 2009-10-07 01:55 am (UTC)(link)
No wai!

[identity profile] lafinjack.livejournal.com 2009-10-07 04:44 am (UTC)(link)
What Obama is doing is not re-instituting slavery, of course, but there is some trend to limit people freedom, as usual during the government expansion periods...

Then why weren't you and yours complaining along with the libruls during the Bush years? That's why it's disingenuous, because you're only making a stink now that it's not your guys in control.

[identity profile] lafinjack.livejournal.com 2009-10-07 04:48 am (UTC)(link)
4chan isn't racist, they just use racism as part of the overarching joke that is 4chan.

[identity profile] chasovschik.livejournal.com 2009-10-07 02:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Who says we weren't? Why do you think Bush had such a miserable rating? He lost a significant of his base, including me, btw. For a slightly different reasons, though, because he didn't expand government that far. His only thing about freedom was Patriot Act, it was totally bipartisan, and Obama doesn't seem willing to limit it seriously.

[identity profile] roseofjuly.livejournal.com 2009-10-08 03:58 am (UTC)(link)
It makes me so warm in my heart that white people, especially pretty white ladies, are proud of me! I just love this post-racial society. I hope someone pets me on my head and tells me my hair is really pretty tomorrow!

[identity profile] roseofjuly.livejournal.com 2009-10-08 04:02 am (UTC)(link)
JSYK, you picked an extremely bad example. Extremely. That cartoon wasn't just non-liberal, it was stupid, extremist, and offensive.

[identity profile] roseofjuly.livejournal.com 2009-10-08 04:04 am (UTC)(link)
Comparing the limited freedoms during government expansion to fucking chattel slavery is NOT a legitimate thing. At all.

[identity profile] chasovschik.livejournal.com 2009-10-08 01:57 pm (UTC)(link)
That's your personal opinion, not shared by everybody.

[identity profile] chasovschik.livejournal.com 2009-10-08 01:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Why?

[identity profile] chasovschik.livejournal.com 2009-10-08 02:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Better try Hitler. Always works.

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